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Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2013.04.08 16:59:00 -
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Taking away a low on the hyperion makes it a worse brawler, not better.
Right now it can fit cap booster, scram, web, prop, and a 2nd cap booster, which is needed to active tank it.
Dropping a mid forces it to either go propless, in which case it is massively outclassed by the maelstrom, or drop a cap booster, in which case it is hilariously vulnerable to neuts. |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:05:00 -
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My suggestion for the hyp:
Drop a gun hardpoint, give it the 10% damage bonus (gains .5 gun worth of dps).
Tweak its fitting a bit (the active armor rig changes hurt it a bunch in the fitting dept, but the loss of a gun will make up for that I suppose).
Done. (Maybe give it another flight of light drones, but i dont see a pressing need)
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Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
546
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:23:00 -
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Helicity Boson wrote:CCP Rise wrote: And along with this, why do you need 5 mids to fit 2 cap injectors? Because you *need* 1) point 2) web 3) prop mod 4+5) two injectors ...for your Hyperion not to be even more awful than it already is. And I'm pretty sure anyone that PVPs and can count on five fingers could have figured this out for you.
Hell, i would almost rather they move a low slot to a mid slot, so I can fit that + eccm. |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
546
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Posted - 2013.04.08 17:28:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:Quote:But do you hear us about the general problem with Gallente ships being in last place in terms of use in pvp? As there is a reason they have been in last place for years. I can tell you from looking at internal metrics that this simply isn't true. For instance, for the last 5 days - the Hyperion has literally done the most combat damage to other player ships (for a tech 1 bs). The MOST. Now there may be a weird reason for this (I imagine its something to do with shield tanked ones on station undocks), but the point is that such a general declaration is unfounded. It would be more helpful to hear about what use it ought to be filling, and in what way its falling short. My expectation for the Hyperion was that it generally would be wanting to tank and gank as much as possible, and that self-reliance for utility was secondary. What I'm hearing is that people want it to be more self reliant. If you can add to the discussion in more specific ways I would be happy to hear it.
Why would you fly a rep bonused BS when you have support? If you have support, just use a megathron and press whatever button you have bound to "broadcast for armor" |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
546
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Posted - 2013.04.08 18:25:00 -
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Yeah i really cant see how hyperions could be doing more damage in pvp than say, nagas, rokhs, archons, etc. |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
546
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Posted - 2013.04.08 18:58:00 -
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I really dont see why people hate on the armor rep bonus. Its really really good. |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
546
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Posted - 2013.04.08 19:05:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Michael Harari wrote:I really dont see why people hate on the armor rep bonus. Its really really good. it was weak with only 6 low slots. With 7 it will be ok.
With 7 its useless since you just get neuted and explode |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2013.04.08 22:26:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:People tended to run light armor tanks (2 plates 2eanms 1dcu 2 mag stab)
Thats a pretty standard armor tank on everything.
Also giving the hyp a utility high and 10% damage bonus solves the problem in how you feel about it. It gains a half gun in damage, gains some cap stability and gives it a utility slot |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
552
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Posted - 2013.04.09 12:26:00 -
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Sentry drones are incredibly common in pvp, from ishtar/gila fleets, prophecy fleets, domi "boot" fleets, slowcats, gatecamping domis, gatecamping carriers, etc. |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
552
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Posted - 2013.04.10 01:51:00 -
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Janice Endashi wrote:Loki Vice wrote:CCP rise, you suck, quit touching ships go back to "bringing solo back" in a game where solo realistically doesn't exist.
Fozzie please help us, everything you touched is pure bliss, but this ****, **** this ****. If i want a shield ship, i'm not going to ******* fly gallente, if I want a dominix, i'm going to fly a ******* dominix not this ****** ass armageddon.
CCP rise, how you convinced anyone that you know what you're talking about is ******* beyond me Well to be fair Fozzie did deliver the OMGWTFLULZUSELESS GARBAGE that is the AAR.
AAR is pretty good |
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Michael Harari
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2013.05.18 03:55:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:If I'm honest, I really don't like the idea of the 7/5/7 Mega at this point. Originally, I thought it could be really fun to have the Mega become much more flexible and let it be the go-to small gang gun ship for Gallente. I think for that to work though, the Hyp would have had to become the fleet-focused gun ship so that there wasn't a lot of blurring between them. Even with the way it ended up working out, I still don't feel totally comfortable with the overlap between them, and if they were both 7/5/7 it would be MUCH worse.
Hope you can find a way to love one of them anyway =p
As for the Dominix CPU, I'll have a look at it when I'm back in the office next week, but I doubt it will get changed.
7/6/6 mega pls |
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